This has been a harrowing time for Fetty Wap. The rapper was on the brink of his triumphant return to music with the release of The butterfly Effect in October. The album was applauded by fans who were happy to see the New Jersey rapper get back on track after the tragic loss of his daughter. It’s an experience the rapper has been understandably quiet about, but just as he was grieving the loss of his son, Fetty was arrested.

Authorities allege that Fetty was involved in a massive drug trafficking ring and, as the federal case progresses, he spoke with Fat Joe for his first interview since being released from jail.

The pair covered a wide variety of topics, but touched on Fetty’s notable absence from the charts. The rapper explained why he decided to take a step back in his music career and his reasoning focused on his team.

“You sold ten million records, right? And then, to me, it’s like you’ve disappeared. Like you’ve regressed,” Fat Joe said. He asked Fetty if he had a particular reason for his break. The rapper replied, “If I could say it myself, I would say it’s more so that the people around me have no experience. As if no one has experience, honestly.”

Fat Joe interrupted to call him “household boy management.”

“And what happened, it was like, in the process, you know how it goes, you feel me?” Fetty said. “In the process, I’m trying to figure out why it continues like this, why it continues like this, and then, you know, the financial part, like you, what about this, what about that.” Fetty said that he still signed with two record labels and that there was a time when he felt like he had to take over the business on his own.

“For the tours, I put in all the bread for the tours. I paid for all the tour buses. It all came out of my expenses. It was like, I have to pay them all, but I’m paying for everything else.”

Watch Fetty and Fat Joe discuss the ills of the industry below.